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| The
neurotransmitter approach
used in over 900 medical clinics |
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Contact us or find
a caregiver using this approach. |
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"Urinary Serotonin and
Dopamine Neurotransmitter
Testing" |
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The Science
and
Non-Science
Behind It |
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By:
Marty Hinz,
MD |
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President
Clinical
Research |
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NeuroResearch
Clinics,
Inc. |
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NeuroResearch Clinics relies exclusively
on DBS Labs for "urinary
neurotransmitter testing" of serotonin,
dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine in research for the
following reasons. There is too much bad information on the
street regarding "urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing". We take this opportunity
to review bad serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter information
and juxtapose it against peer reviewed
literature on the subject of
"urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing". |
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LABS
SHOULD EARN YOUR TRUST |
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Medical doctors are taught to place a
high degree of trust in the hospital and
clinic lab. NeuroResearch Clinics has
found that there are non-hospital,
non-clinic labs out there that may not
deserve this trust this same trust.
Early on NeuroResearch Clinics contracted
for urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter lab testing and
found it not to be of the caliber
found in hospitals and clinics. As a
physician who had been hospital
and clinic based for over 35 years as I thought all
medical labs were the same, they are
not. Laboratories supervised by medical
doctors with hospital affiliation and
labs supervised by people with no
medical license or no hospital affiliation are
like night and day. In contracting early
on with labs, where the people running the lab had
no hospital affiliation, no medical
license, no clinic, no medical training, and no patient
care responsibilities,
after several thousand labs were
obtained it was realized that lab
results were not calibrated to hospital
standards. In turn this caused
NeuroResearch to discard (throw out) thousands of
urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter labs obtained from sources with no hospital
privileges or affiliation.
This type of "urinary serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" from sources with no hospital
privilege credentials is still
available to this day. We get regular
reports from physicians using this type
of "urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" claiming
that
virtually none of their patients achieve
relief of symptoms. This raises the question,
"Why are these doctors continuing to use
urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing that does
nothing to make the patient better? |
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on we had urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter lab testing from numerous sources other than DBS
Labs. In all cases we found the
urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter lab data reported by
these other non-hospital affiliated,
non-clinic, non-MD sources to be so
flawed that all data had to be removed
and discarded from research
considerations. Having wasted two years
of research time after finding out we
had received several thousand urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter assays that were
worthless Tom Uncini, MD a dual board
certified hospital based (Hibbing and
Cook Hospitals in Minnesota) laboratory
pathologist founded DBS Labs for assay
of urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter levels. |
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HOW DO YOU KNOW IF
A LAB IS BAD? |
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How
would you know if the urinary serotonin
and dopamine neurotransmitter lab results
reported by a lab are flawed? First look
at the reference range reported by the
lab in baseline "urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing". This value is suppose to represent
the lab values you will obtain sampling
people in the general population off the street.
In a proper reference range the values
obtained are within two standard
deviations of the mean. If a lab is
reporting that almost all the baseline
"urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" prior to
treatment with 5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
L-dopa aka dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine as low or in the lower end of
the reference range that lab is
miscalibrated reporting flawed urinary
serotonin and dopamine lab
results. 95% of the labs obtained in
baseline "urinary serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" should be in the
reference range and in uniform
distributed across the reference
range. Lack of uniform distribution
across the reference range is prima
fascia evidence of improperly calibrated
and/or erroneously reported
urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter lab testing.
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All labs are not the
same, if you are going to work in the
world of "high complexity labs" known as
"urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" you need a board
certified hospital based laboratory
pathologist in charge to insure the
results you receive are valid. We have
yet to seen a lab operated by people
with no medical license and no hospital
affiliation that generates
"urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" results that are useful
in research. |
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IT IS NOT
INTUITIVE!!! |
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What the U of MN Medical
School paper on
NeuroResearch work says? |
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The neurotransmitter molecules
of serotonin, dopamine,
norepinephrine, and epinephrine
found in the urine are not
peripheral serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
molecules filtered at the
glomerulous and excreted in the
urine. These are serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
molecules that are synthesized
by the kidneys as excreted into
the urine. |
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It
is a common misconception that as
you increase serotonin levels in
the central nervous system or
peripheral nervous system
through administration of the
serotonin precursor 5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP
that the urinary serotonin
levels will increase as well.
But the fact is this is not the
case, there is in fact no
correlation between
administration of 5-HTP aka 5HTP
or 5 HTP
and urinary serotonin levels,
none!. The only correlation that
exists is when the phase of the
urinary serotonin is determined.
If a lab tries to tell you that
it can demonstrate consistent
elevation of urinary serotonin
with administration of 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP they are not reporting
accurate lab results and ma
have miscalibrated lab
equipment
in running urinary serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
testing. The link at the left contains
excerpts from the University of
Minnesota Medical School paper
on the work of NeuroResearch
Clinics. This paper clearly
notes, "Curiously,
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP did not exhibit a
clear influence on urinary
serotonin excretion when 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP doses were compared to
urinary..." |
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MORE HINTS YOU
HAVE A BAD LAB |
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You know you have a bad
lab on your hands when: |
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1. The lab recommends
baseline
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" prior to starting 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine, and/or
L-dopa aka dopa. |
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THE SCIENCE:
Baseline
"urinary
serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" in the
endogenous state
prior to
administration
of 5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine,
and L-dopa
aka dopa dosing
that achieves
the competitive
inhibition state
is of no value
and no
correlation with
"urinary
serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" obtained
once the patient
is taking 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5
HTP, tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine,
and L-dopa
aka dopa. |
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2. If the lab suggests
that the "urinary
neurotransmitter
testing"
of
serotonin, dopamine,
norepinephrine, and
epinephrine correlates
with peripheral and/or
central nervous system
levels. |
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THE SCIENCE:
Urinary
serotonin,
dopamine,
norepinephrine,
and epinephrine
are
neurotransmitter
molecules
(serotonin and
dopamine) that
are synthesized
by the kidneys
and have no
correlation with
central or
peripheral
serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
levels. |
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3. If the lab doesn't
have a clue what the
three phases of urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
response are and what
they represent. |
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THE SCIENCE:
As noted in the
University of
Minnesota
Medical School
paper the only
correlation that
exists between
taking 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5
HTP, tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine,
and L-dopa
aka dopa and
urinary
serotonin and
dopamine are the
three phases of
response when
the 5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP, tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine,
and L-dopa
aka dopa dosing is
changed and two
urinary
serotonin and
dopamine
neurotransmitter labs are
compared. |
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4. If the lab asserts
that the monoamine
neurotransmitter
molecules serotonin and
dopamine cross the blood
brain
barrier. |
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THE SCIENCE:
Serotonin,
dopamine,
norepinephrine,
and epinephrine
neurotransmitter
molecules
(serotonin and
dopamine) do not
cross the blood
brain barrier.
Despite the fact
that this has
been established
for years we
continue to hear
assertions from
non-hospital
affiliated labs
that the
serotonin and
dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules do
cross the blood
brain barrier. |
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Peer reviewed literature
supporting the
statements at the left. |
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Sometimes you can take a negative and
turn it into a positive. We use an
non-peer reviewed article posted on the
internet which has been
used as a marketing tool by a
non-hospital, non-clinic, lab to point
out "urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" misconceptions that fly in the face of
science as it exists while exploring
what the peer reviewed scientific
literature of the world actually says
regarding "urinary neurotransmitter
testing" of
serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine in an effort to review
misconception and the scientific facts. |
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We
review the article, "Urinary
Neurotransmitter Testing, Myths and
Misconceptions". In many ways this
article reflects the state of thinking
in the area of "urinary serotonin
and dopamine neurotransmitter test" in the 1990s and does
not reflect the current state of
knowledge where peer reviewed literature
has exploded since 2003. |
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Serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine
found in the urine are serotonin an d
dopamine neurotransmitter molecules synthesized by the kidneys.
Despite this fact the "Myths" article
asserts on page 2, "neurotransmitter
molecules (serotonin and dopamine)
circulating in the blood are filtered by
the kidneys and subsequently excreted in
the urine." One step further in The
Myths article is the assertion that serotonin,
dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine neurotransmitter molecules
cross the blood brain barrier. Then
makes the assertion, "The studies
described above suggest a relationship
between urinary neurotransmitter
measurements and CNS levels." In review
of the literature cited in this
assertion no support for the claim could
be found. Serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter molecules found in the urine
have been in the central nervous system,
they are serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter molecules that were
synthesized by the kidneys. The basic science involved
is misrepresented. This web page
is dedicated to setting the record
straight and teaching what is really
going on with urinary serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
levels. |
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The Myths
article claims appear to be a myth and flies in the face of all
scientific literature out there in claiming
serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine cross the blood brain
barrier. The myths article is flimsy.
When full text versions of the reference
cited in the myths bibliography are
pulled and reviewed conclusions in The
Myths Article are a mis-representing
what is said in the full text
version of the literature cited. On the
link to the left is 17 literature articles
that teach away from the unique and one
of a kind non-science supported teachings of The Myths article
(a non-peer reviewed article used in
marketing). |
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The Myths article
asserts that
serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine are filtered at the
glomerulous and excreted in the urine.
This assertion by Myths flies in the
face of all literature out there and has
no basis in face. This links at the
right examine
literature sources for urinary
neurotransmitter molecules serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine. |
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In a
properly calibrated lab, of the caliber
found in hospitals, baseline "urinary
neurotransmitter testing" of
serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, and
epinephrine has no correlation with
"urinary neurotransmitter testing"
(serotonin, dopamine) once the patient is taking 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine, and
L-dopa aka dopa. The only advocates we
have seen of baseline "urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" prior to
treatment with 5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
L-dopa aka dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine appear to be labs run by
non-MDs with no hospital privilege
affiliation, no medical license to
practice medicine, and lab quality
assurance issues where almost all baseline returned
show results that are low relative to
the reference range. |
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The
goal of treatment with 5-HTP aka 5HTP or
5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine s to get the urinary
serotonin and dopamine in the
neurotransmitter phase 3
therapeutic range (serotonin, dopamine) or relief of symptoms
for the patient which ever comes first.
These links discuss the urinary
neurotransmitter three phase
concept. |
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In
administering L-dopa aka dopa
"urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter testing" reveals
fluctuations in dopamine levels, these
fluctuations can be managed by
administering tyrosine aka L-tyrosine (not
n-acetyl-tyrosine) with L-dopa aka dopa in
proper amounts. The links at the left
discuss the concept of "the tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine base". |
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Outliers are urinary serotonin and
dopamine lab values generated that
do not fit that pattern of other labs
obtains. The two links at the right
discuss lab outliers. |
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The
proper time to collect a urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter sample is 5 to 6 hours
before bed time. This link discusses
why, if the lab suggests collecting in
the AM you have a bad lab procedure on your hands. |
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Both stimulatory and inhibitory
effects of dietary 5
HydroxyTryptophan and tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine
on urinary excretion of
serotonin and dopamine in a
large human population. |
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George J. Trachte, Thomas Uncini
and Marty Hinz, Department of
Physiology and Pharmacology,
University of MN Medical School
Duluth, 1035 University Drive,
Duluth, MN 55812, County Coroner
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From the University of Minnesota Medical School
paper; there is no correlation between dosing of
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP administered and urinary serotonin levels.
The only correlation found was when 5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP dosing
levels were changed then urinary levels were
compared leading to the finding that urinary
serotonin response with administration of 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP
exits is
three distinct phases. |
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EXCERPT #2 |
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Curiously, 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP
did not exhibit a clear
influence on urinary serotonin
excretion when 5-HTP aka 5HTP or
5 HTP doses were
compared to urinary serotonin
excretion; however, a
relationship was observed when
alterations in 5-HTP aka 5HTP or
5 HTP dose were
compared to alterations in
urinary serotonin excretion.
The data indicate three,
statistically discernible,
components to 5-HTP aka 5HTP or
5 HTP responses,
including inverse, no and direct
relationships between urinary
serotonin excretion and 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP
doses. |
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Marty Hinz, MD
Depression in I. Kohlstadt (ed.) Food and Nutrients in Disease Management (CRC Press, 2009) |
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PATIENT EVALUATION, "URINARY NEUROTRANSMITTER TESTING" |
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KIDNEYS |
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"urinary
serotonin, dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" prior to 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine, and/or
L-dopa aka dopa therapy is
of no value. There is no
correlation between baseline
"urinary serotonin, dopamine
neurotransmitter testing"
and urinary serotonin and
dopamine neurotransmitter
phases once the patient is
taking 5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5
HTP, tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine, and/or L-dopa
aka dopa. It is not
necessary or even useful to
measure baseline "urinary
serotonin, dopamine
neurotransmitter testing" in
treatment with 5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka
dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine. |
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Urinary monoamine
neurotransmitter molecules
(serotonin and dopamine) do
not cross the blood brain
barrier. Urinary
monoamine serotonin,
dopamine neurotransmitter
molecules are not serotonin,
dopamine neurotransmitter molecules
filtered by the glomerulous
of the kidneys and excreted
into the urine. They
are urinary serotonin,
dopamine neurotransmitter
molecules that are
synthesized by the kidneys
and excreted into the urine
or secreted into the system
via the renal veins. 20
With simultaneous
administration of serotonin
and dopamine
precursors 5-HTP aka 5HTP or
5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine, and/or
L-dopa aka dopa, three phases of
urinary serotonin, dopamine neurotransmitter
response have been
identified on laboratory
assay of the urine. The
three phases of response
apply to both serotonin and
dopamine. In all the life
forms tested for urinary
serotonin, dopamine neurotransmitter levels that have
kidneys along with serotonin
and catecholamine systems,
the three phases of
serotonin, dopamine urinary
neurotransmitter response
exist.40 In
reviewing the literature it
would appear that the 3
phase of urinary response to
serotonin, dopamine neurotransmitter molecules
were
present in previous writings
but were not identified as
such. For example, a 1999
article notes that
administration of L-dopa aka
dopa can
increase urinary dopamine
levels (neurotransmitter
phase 3) and
decrease urinary serotonin
levels (neurotransmitter
phase 1).4 |
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LAB "URINARY NEUROTRANSMITTER TESTING" STATS |
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64.1%
of patients receive only one urinary serotonin and
dopamine
neurotransmitter
test (consistent with
complete relief of symptoms after adjusting
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa
based on one
neurotransmitter
test - serotonin and dopamine). |
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At
present, DBS Labs is performing over 20,000
urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter assays a year. |
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Less
than 2% of patient urinary serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter
tests
display an usual pattern where
the patient ultimately ends up on a low dose of 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP (
< 150 mg per day) and a high dose of tyrosine
aka L-tyrosine (
> 6 grams per day). These patients typically need
4 to 6 urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter tests
for relief of
symptoms and over 95% carry a diagnosis of depression. |
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In
reviewing the lab
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing"
of over 4,000 patients in the
last year, the average number of urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter tests
per patient is 1.81
neurotransmitter
tests
(serotonin,
dopamine).
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The
database record for “most
urinary
serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter
tests
ordered on one patient”
is 21. In reviewing the data, virtually none of the
NeuroResearch treatment suggestions regarding
5-HTP aka
5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine
were followed. |
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Debunking
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NEUROTRANSMITTER
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dopamine) |
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The
Following Statements Are True |
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--Urinary
serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter molecules
are not
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter molecules
filtered by the kidneys
and excreted into the urine, they are
neurotransmitter molecules (serotonin and
dopamine) that
are synthesized by the kidneys then excreted into the urine.
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--Urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter molecules are not
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter molecules that have been in
the central or peripheral nervous systems. |
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--The
monoamine neurotransmitter
molecules
serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine do
not cross the blood brain barrier. |
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--Baseline
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing"
has no value in diagnosing diseases
such as depression, ADHD, etc.
associated with low
urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels. |
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--Baseline
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing"
prior to starting
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa
is of no
value. |
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--"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" has no value in treating disease
such as depression, ADHD, etc.
with 5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5
HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and tyrosine aka
L-tyrosine
symptoms if
the urinary serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter phase is not determined. |
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--"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing" is only of value
in treating symptoms
with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine when the goal of treatment is to establish urinary
serotonin and dopamine
levels in "The
neurotransmitter phase 3 Therapeutic Response". |
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LABORATORY
"URINARY NEUROTRANSMITTER TESTING" CONFUSION |
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By: Marty Hinz, MD |
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In 1997, when we started treating patients in
our medical clinic with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa, much of the
information in the literature and on the
internet was flawed or extremely incomplete.
Since that time, we have seen the emergence of
urinary
serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter
testing companies based on flawed information. Labs
where no one has a medical license and no one
has ever cared for
patients. Yet, they hold out that they have the
expertise to tell physicians how to treat their
patients with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa. The bad part is there
are physicians listening. |
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Baseline "urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
testing"
(serotonin,
dopamine)
prior to treatment
with 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa,
and tyrosine aka L-tyrosine
is of no
value, yet there are labs out there
that state they can show you
virtually all patients have low
levels of
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules prior to treatment
with 5-HTP
aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa,
and tyrosine aka L-tyrosine
and
therefore need treatment. Come on! What happened to the
reference range calibrated to two standard
deviations of the mean for the population? |
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If everyone tested
with "urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter testing"
has
low levels of
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules, then the reference range
would be moved lower during proper calibration
and once again very few would have levels below
the reference range. By definition two standard
deviations from the mean will give a population
where only about 5% are not in the rage defined.
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By reporting that patients have low
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels (serotonin,
dopamine
below the reference range), the
labs fail to identify the source of disease
such as depression, ADHD, etc.
and the real
problem, lab calibration.
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95% of patients with
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
related diseases
such as depression, ADHD, etc.
prior to treatment
with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine
typically have
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels
in the reference range (by
definition). The diseases
such as depression, ADHD, etc.
symptoms are usually the
result of neuron bundle damage. Therefore, they need
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels
high enough to stimulate the
remaining viable neurons. By increasing
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels
above the reference range in
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter phase 3, it is possible to compensate for neuron damage
leading to resolution of disease symptoms
such as depression, ADHD, etc.. |
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Labs that report most patients have
low
urinary
serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels
have miscalibrated reference
ranges. These results have nothing to do with the
central or peripheral
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter levels. The whole
situation from the lab, to the doctor creates confusion
and takes advantage of the patient when all labs prior
to treatment
with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP, L-dopa aka dopa, and
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine
are reported as low. |
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LABORATORIES ARE NOT THE SAME |
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Two
days ago, while assisting an MD on the phone with a
problem the light came on, “What we know and take for
granted here at NeuroResearch Clinics is not something
everyone knows.” The physician was having a problem with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa tolerance on start-up. A plan was laid out to
get the patient on a low dose of
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa, and then
obtain a urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter test
followed by a dosing
change and a second
neurotransmitter
test
(serotonin,
dopamine)
in order to map out a plan to
get this patient’s symptoms under control. The MD
mentioned, “I have obtained "urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
testing"
from another lab and there did not appear to be much
wrong.” The real answer to her question was that the
"urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter testing"
results of DBS Labs directed by
Tom Uncini, MD - dual board certified laboratory
pathologist who has been hospital based for over 20
years have no correlation with the
urinary
serotonin and dopamine
neurotransmitter
test results
of other
companies who promote that they are working with
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa and
"urinary neurotransmitter testing" - none
(serotonin,
dopamine).
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We are
not sure what causes the problems with the lab results
reported of other labs, we can only speculate. Urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter lab
results are not merely reported out
as they come off a lab machine, the numbers from the lab
machines need to be inserted into a computer program,
which calculates the “serotonin
and dopamine neurotransmitter/creatinine”
ratio. Creatinine standardizes the measurement by
compensating for the change in the dilution of the
urine, which allows an accurate urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
reading. |
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This is a
very complex formula where the molecular weight of
creatinine (113.2) and several parameters need to be
programmed in properly to get valid final results.
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Herein
lies the confusion - we know that the
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing"
of DBS
Labs, when plugged into the
5-HTP aka 5HTP or 5 HTP,
tyrosine aka L-tyrosine,
and/or L-dopa aka dopa treatment that we
have developed works great but
"urinary
serotonin and dopamine neurotransmitter
testing"
of other labs has
no correlation with the findings and reporting of DBS
Labs Pathologist Tom Uncini, MD. |
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH
THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS IN THIS ARTICLE? |
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"urinary neurotransmitter testing": Myths and
Misconceptions |
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This article was none peer reviewed
marketing tool. |
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non-peer reviewed article above |
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Studies have demonstrated intact
neurotransmitter transport out of the CNS,
into the periphery,
via blood-brain barrier transporters. Renal
filtration of neurotransmitter
molecules (serotonin and dopamine) via specific transporters
is well-documented. Researchers have
provided examples of urinary
neurotransmitter measurements that correlate
with CNS tissue concentrations.
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THE REAL SCIENCE BEHIND |
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neurotransmitter molecules (serotonin
and dopamine), BLOOD BRAIN BARRIER
AND KIDNEYS |
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Serotonin, dopamine,
norepinephrine and epinephrine do not
cross the blood brain barrier. Systemic
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules are not
filtered and excreted in the urine; the
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules synthesized by the kidneys are
excreted into the urine. |
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Writings like the one above only serve
to enhance the confusion over what is really happening.
The research knowledge has grown exponentially over the
last 15 years; don’t get stuck in the past. Articles
like this only distract from the reality of what is
occurring in the system. |
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The paragraphs above are from a
2007 non-peer reviewed article. It was
written by two lab techs and the wife of
one of the lab techs. It represents one
of the few current articles attempting
to assert that
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules cross the blood brain
barrier. |
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The
main problem with the article is that the assertions are
an echo of the old way of understanding
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules.
As reported in peer reviewed literature on the
hyperlinks to the right, systemic
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules
are filtered at the glomerulus and metabolized by the
kidneys; very few systemic
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules make it into the final concentrated
urine. |
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The monoamine
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules
do not cross the blood brain barrier, nor are they
transported across the blood brain barrier. In examining
the references cited by the lab techs, it is clear that
those references were misquoted and actually teach that
monoamine
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules do
not cross the blood brain barrier. In fact, while
reviewing the full text references cited in the article,
it is clear that information from these articles were
pulled out of context; every literature reference cited
was inaccurately portrayed in the non-peer reviewed
research article. |
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Finally, the article above attempts to claim that
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules
cross the blood brain barrier and are excreted in the
urine. This false assertion leads to the statement that
there is a correlation between central nervous system
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules
and urinary
serotonin
and dopamine
neurotransmitter
molecules, which there is not.
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